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Gramática · Verbos · A2 · 14 min

The spoken past

comí, j'ai mangé, ho mangiato, vaig menjar: the sisters' biggest everyday mismatch.

Por ahora, las explicaciones de esta sección están en inglés; los ejemplos están en todas las lenguas.

Latin had one past for completed actions, the perfect: CANTĀVĪ meant both 'I sang' and 'I have sung'. Spoken Latin then built a second, compound past from HABĒRE 'to have' plus a participle, out of phrases of the type HABEŌ EPISTULAM SCRĪPTAM 'I have a letter (that is) written'. Every sister inherited both pasts, and Catalan added a third. What differs is which one people actually use when they talk.

SpanishFrenchItalianPortugueseRomanianCatalan
simple past (from the Latin perfect)comí (pretérito indefinido)je mangeai (passé simple)mangiai (passato remoto)comi (pretérito perfeito)mâncai (perfect simplu)mengí (passat simple)
compound past ('have' + participle)he comido (pretérito perfecto)j'ai mangé (passé composé)ho mangiato (passato prossimo)tenho comido ('I've been eating')am mâncat (perfect compus)he menjat (perfet)
'go' + infinitive past—————vaig menjar (passat perifràstic)
'I ate' in everyday speechcomíj'ai mangého mangiatocomiam mâncatvaig menjar
The pasts in each sister

So for a finished event yesterday, Spanish and Portuguese use the simple past, while French, standard Italian and Romanian use the compound. The French passé simple has left speech altogether: you will read il arriva, ils firent, elle fut in novels and newspapers, but never hear them in conversation. Catalan has a past of its own, the periphrastic past: the present of anar 'to go', in special forms (vaig, vas, va, vam, vau, van), plus the infinitive. Beware the false friend: Spanish voy a comer and French je vais manger mean 'I'm going to eat', but Catalan vaig menjar means 'I ate'. Portuguese compound, built with ter, means something else again: tenho comido is 'I've been eating (lately)'.

  • Ieri ho mangiato la paella.

    Ayer comí paella.

    Hier, j'ai mangé une paella.

    Ontem eu comi paella.

    Ieri am mâncat paella.

    Ahir vaig menjar paella.

    Yesterday I ate paella.

    A finished event: simple past in Spanish and Portuguese, compound in French, Italian and Romanian, the vaig past in Catalan.

  • Oggi ho mangiato troppo.

    Hoy he comido demasiado.

    Aujourd'hui, j'ai trop mangé.

    Hoje eu comi demais.

    Azi am mâncat prea mult.

    Avui he menjat massa.

    I've eaten too much today.

    Inside today, Spain and Catalonia switch to the compound; Portuguese, like most of Latin America, says comi.

  • Sei mai stato a Roma?

    ¿Has estado alguna vez en Roma?

    Tu es déjà allé à Rome ?

    Você já esteve em Roma?

    Ai fost vreodată la Roma?

    Has estat mai a Roma?

    Have you ever been to Rome?

    Life experience: compound past in every sister but Portuguese, which uses the simple past (esteve).

  • Sono nato nel 1990.

    Nací en 1990.

    Je suis né en 1990.

    Nasci em 1990.

    M-am născut în 1990.

    Vaig néixer el 1990.

    I was born in 1990.

  • Colombo arrivò in America nel 1492.

    Colón llegó a América en 1492.

    Colomb arriva en Amérique en 1492.

    Colombo chegou à América em 1492.

    Columb a ajuns în America în 1492.

    Colom va arribar a Amèrica el 1492.

    Columbus reached the Americas in 1492.

    Written history: here French and Italian bring out the simple past too; Romanian and Catalan usually keep their everyday past.

The map matters

Spain draws the line at today: he comido for today and for life experience, comí for anything before. Latin America, the Canary Islands and much of northwestern Spain prefer comí even for today, and so does Portuguese on both sides of the Atlantic. In Italy the north uses the passato prossimo almost exclusively; Tuscany keeps a Spanish-like distinction; in the south, especially Sicily and Calabria, everyday speech uses the passato remoto widely, even for recent events. France has one spoken past, the passé composé, everywhere, and Romania nearly so: the perfect simplu survives in speech mainly in the southwest (Oltenia). Catalan draws Spain's line at today too, but with vaig menjar on the far side of it; the old simple past (mengí) is mostly literary, somewhat more alive in Valencian.

LatinSpanishFrenchItalianPortugueseRomanianCatalan
FUIT 'was'fueil futfufoifufou
FĒCIT 'did, made'hizoil fitfecefezfăcuféu
HABUIT 'had'huboil eutebbehouveavuhagué
CANTĀVIT 'sang'cantóil chantacantòcantoucântă (stress: cânTĂ)cantà
Recognizing the simple past: four Latin perfects